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In a message dated 8/24/2004 2:16:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, darlingdominique2003@... writes:

well, i know its been awhile since i have posted (another story) but
i thought i would update u guys on my hair. basically, i want to
take the locs out (wishing auntie, anna, etc were closer to me
definitely). i have lost a total of 4 locs in a weeks time. two
were thinner than i thought and a slight pull in putting a bra
headband on resulted in those being gone. the other two, i was just
messing in my head trying to inspect and make sure they wouldn't do
like the first two and poof- they fell out too. this has saddened me
to no end. i cannot blame this on the latchhook method b/c overall
the remaining ones are very strong (i pull almost religiously now
just to make sure). i do have a small fro going on in the front
which i assume is part of the loc process. it doesn't look bad or
anything. i don't know what is going on but i know i didnt start
what was supposed to be not just a hair journey but a spriritual one
as well to only be six months in this thing and losing locs. i
haven't discussed this w/anyone until i talked to auntie today.
surely don't want to give the non-nappturals any more fuel to add to
the fire. i am really discouraged and close to undoing these locs
and going back to my fro. i know it would take forever to take down
but how many more locs am i going to lose?

Hi everyone!
I was just wondering whats your favorite type of hair color? It
doesn't matter if it's chemical or natural. Has anyone tried Clairol
Natural Insticts? I was thinking of trying it, seems good!
Thx :)

Ok I think the top 2 does help in overall health & the body. But I will say for myself I never have been a water person & many of the fluids I take in aren't the best. The excersing I really haven't seen it doing much for my hair, even when I was going to the gym often & taking belly dancing classes. The other 3 are right on target
for me ;-)!!!
But you know you left out 2 things.....Suave Milk n Honey & Olive Oil!!!!,lol let me quit.
femaleuniqnes

Okay, can I just vent for about 60 seconds? I just wanted to say
that I have been amazed at how my hair is reacting to this sta-sof-
fro hair moisturizer. I am loving how soft it's making my hair. I
used it before but I didn't like the way that it was making my hair
feel. It was really sticky. But this time, I guess since my hair is
longer and I can really work it in with a good leave in (Aveda
Elixir), my hair is super soft. Okay, just had to vent for a minute.
You all have a good day. LG

Welcome to the group Elaine, so glad that you have joined us!!!
First I would like to say congratulations on your new au' natural lifestyle. And I wish you success and blessings on your support group & helping and teaching others.
I loved ya answer on attending the school of life, so many of us don't know it but we are. And far as undoing the brainwashing, it is so deep rooted. I think it is going to take major work in order for changes to be made. But I must say natural hair & lifestyles are being more & more accepted and practiced.
femaleuniqnes

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Anna's weekly hair maintenance
Saturday August 21, 2004
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: The dorms ...
Notes:
Rinse out deep conditioner (alternate between ORS Hair Mayonnaise, Queen Helene Cholesterol/Jojoba Oil, and Motions CPR) from the night before ... shampoo with Aveda Sap Moss Shampoo. Rinse. Condition with Aveda Sap Moss Conditioner ... comb hair while conditioner is in hair. Rinse ... slather hair with Suave Humectant Conditioner, leave in for a few moments and rinse out !!! (Usually style hair in braids or two strand twists.)

Hi group, hope everyone is doing great. I need some advice, I need to
find out what products can i put in my hair to make it soft.. My hair
doesn't feel so soft now that i'm natural..It's nice but rough
like..it's kinda hard to describe, but some advice would be
appreciated deeply..
Peace and Blessing
Gina

I was just thinking about all the things we do to our hair to keep it in A-1 shape. If pressed to come up with a top five list, I figured I'd use the following (what about you?):

1. Drink plenty of fluids. I would say water, but just making sure to keep yourself hydrated is the main point. Water is best, but as hot as it's been, popicles have done the job sometimes.

2. Exercise. I experienced the best results with 1 and 2 working in concert with each other. Exercise get's the scalp hair working and get's those follicles in line to do their thang - with adequate fluids inside of the body. I had the best hair growth when I was riding my bike on the regular in Alabama, I've gotten back into it again and I already know it's gonna be ON!

3. Conditioner. No matter what brand, find what routine/combo works for you and go with it! Leave in, extra thick, regular, they're all good friends of mine. [INLINE]

4. Cleanse. I don't know about clarifying, but I've learned time and time again that keeping that scalp and the tresses clean is very important.

5. Leave it alone. I know it's hard to do, but when you're going to work e'ryday, or when classes start, it get's easier to do. Keep your progess updated e'ry once in awhile and you'll be stunned at the progress. I guarantee it. [INLINE]

Even Christie, Barbie's friend, is hip to the napps now!
[INLINE]
~ Anna ~

[INLINE]

Girl, you've got some gorgeous hair!
Tanya

Just thought I'd share that I was pleasantly surprised with my fluffed out braid out this morning. I wasn't going for the braid out look, but I wanted to so some length without using heat, hence, the style I stopped to take a picture of.

No heat was used.

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
BigLegsNappy Rejuvenating Retreat
Friday August 20, 2004
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my house
Notes:
Inspired by Anna's Hair Day, i've decided to have a personal retreat every Friday night. Since I'm married and i have no social life (lol), the plan is to pamper myself and treat me special from 6 PM until midnight. Why not all day, you may ask? Well, i aint use to treating myself good for a whole day, and i'd get lost in the confusion. LOL! so, i'm takin babysteps.

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
Anna's Hair Day
Friday August 20, 2004
7:00 pm - 7:00 am
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my dorm room ... :-)
Notes:
Well, another weekend has arrived, and since I'm 0 for 0 when it comes to productive things to do on the weekend, I've chosen Friday as my "hair day." This is where I do my deep conditioning treatment and just relax and give my follicles some TLC. Holla back with your hair day and post it on the group's calender !!!
-Anna-

Greetings Members:

That was too funny! Yeah, these days the law is on their sides. And
they wonder why children killin folks and blowing up ish. They need
to have good ole fashion beat downs reinstated!
My kids could use a good beatin` too, but

In a message dated 8/17/2004 9:39:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, howxcellent@... writes:

You got the right ideas for it. You're gonna pull it off too.

Thank ya!! I actually been in a creating more hair styles mode that I haven't been in for awhile, so now I'mma have fun with it and feed off it.
femaleuniqnes

Cher, uh, Hello? Since when did FingerWaves become Ghetto? LOL..., some say two-strand twists, fros, and cornrows are ghetto, I don't like that label, not just that I'm from the ghetto, but because I don't like that word...period, and the way certain individuals have used it to cause division. You know what our girl Maya says, "when we know better, we do better" right? okay, baby, now after I done got on ya case real good( [INLINE] ) I know that sounds like the cutest style and unique, and if I were you, I'd go for it.!! PEACE

des

I shared this with some friends on BP and they cracked up....so I'll
share it with you guys. I swear, my childhood was crazy....perhaps
that's why I'm the class-A Nut that I am now....LOL, Enjoy! PEACE
Thanks DaDiva for this Post, we sure can use it...LOL
I got 3 brothers, 3 sisters - my dad worked swing shift so a lot of
the time it was more convenient for my mom & dad to go grocery
shopping late nights at the 24-hr supermarket....what peeved my mom
more than anything is, we had to be in the bed at 9:00pm with the
lights off, right? Especially school nights.
If she caught us outta bed, then well, it was on!! About 30 yrs
ago.....(LOL... I know long time, but I remember it like yesterday) I
was like 8 or 9 and my sister was 10 or 11 -
Me & my sister shared a room, but our room was like right off of the
kitchen, so we could always hear all the goings on up in there (big
plus, right?) so this particular night mom & dad had went shopping
and they always had to buy like loads and loads of food & took a long
time to put up. So we`d listen and wait til when they put up all the
food, we could go in and find some goodies, and then sneak back into
bed and crunch and sing while we`s crunchin` - right?(y`all know how
we do)...LOL, so my sister she always put me up to the dirty work,
cause I was the fat azz, who`d do anything for food, so, we listened
and when my mama had put up all the food, I waited a few minutes
until I heard her turn off the light and head on out. I told my
sister that I wasn`t going in there in the dark by myself, and that
she had to come too, so she kept callin` me out, but she wanted to
grub too, so she brought her azz on! So we make it into the kitchen,
and "Lord, Eureka, Jesus, Friend O` Mine!" there they were - yep, THE
OREOS....LOL, so we goes in there, in the dark mind you, to the open
cupboard so we could get the Oreos, now they wasn`t put in the cookie
jar so we had to steal the whole pkg! We was plottin` and whisperin`
(or so we thought) when "WHAM" on comes the light, and there my
mother is in the middle of the door, with her hands on her hips and
holdin` up her flat azzed house shoe, and threw it at me.....then she
commenced to gettin her belt, which was right on the chair in the
hallway, of course, my fat azz grew wings, I dropped that pkg of
cookies and was rollin` back to the bedroom, my sister was hot on my
heels behind me runnin` for cover, but my mama was comin` fast, and
yellin` and whuppin (but mostly hittin` air) at the same time "I-DONE-
TOLE-Y`ALL-AZZ-TO-STAY-OUT-THE-DAMN-KITCHEN-PAST-9:00-BLAH-BLAH-
BLAH!" and we was screamin` and beggin` and cryin` and mama didn`t
hit nothin` but air, and really thought she was doin`
somethin`....but we cried anyway, because if we didn`t she woulda
really ripped us apart. So we in the room, after she left, cryin` and
hollin` "I hate her, she make me sick, ole ballhead dog!" and
everything we could think of. (we love mama, but at that time, well
you know how it is...LOL) Then we started crackin` up laughin` at
what we tried to do. She heard us laughin` and threatened again, but
never showed back up.....But now to this day, when we havin` a good
ole family laugh, that comes up, and everybody be crackin` up about
it. You know what though, My kids could use a good beatin` too, but
nowadays they got the law on they side, so I`m stuck with puttin` `em
on punishment. Okay, guys, PEACE
who

In a message dated 8/16/2004 10:35:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, howxcellent@... writes:

And when you go, we gotta see pictures. You probably gonna need a
little more extra gel huh?

well I think Imma try to create it at home & yep I'mma need loads of gel. I always been a gel baby anyway,lol. But I think I'mma try to mix my alchol free gel & the alchol kind together so it wont be so bad. But I am definetly working on the picture thang.
femaleuniqnes

Your hair looks very nice and healty.
artisticme2001 <artisticme2001@...

O.k. ya'll. I've got a few pics. of my first four months of being
natural on fotki. I know I've got to do better with my "little"
album. Whoever wants to view can do so if they'd like:
http://public.fotki.com/artisticme/the_first_four_months/
password: natural
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Thank-you very much!

O.k. ya'll. I've got a few pics. of my first four months of being
natural on fotki. I know I've got to do better with my "little"
album. Whoever wants to view can do so if they'd like:
http://public.fotki.com/artisticme/the_first_four_months/
password: natural

And when you go, we gotta see pictures. You probably gonna need a
little more extra gel huh?

Lol ok ya I don't know what's been going on with me, but I been wanting to pair small finger waves with my natural hair, and a sista don't know why. Like a few small ones going straight back or curving in at the face with some swirled sideburns and having the back out in a textured or curly fro sounds a lil ghetto I know,lol but I know I could pull it off?? Now another thing is I never did finger waves before and I know if I do them I am going to have to use that icky brown gel that after I use I am going to have to apoligize to my hair for awhile for using. Also if i don't get it down pact myself I'mma have to let someone else in my head which I haven't in years, and especially not since going natural. So I am veryyyy skeptical about tha,plus no one can do my hair as good as me ;-)t. But my mind has just been wrapping itself around this style(if only ya knew my brain when it comes down to hair). So now I have to figure out how I'mma let this style creation come to birth,lol
femaleuniqnes

Hey Cher, thanks for that....I don't know if I told ya already or not, but

Maya is my favorite Author, Person of all times....She is more my friend

than Oprah, even....LOL, I have read every one of her books and waiting

on more! holla

des

Hey Iris, long time no hear....your hair is lookin' healthy as ever and

YOUR DAUGHTER IS TOO CUTE!!!
~IRIS~ <irrisistablbtch@...

I know i havent been around much...keepin up on these groups
including mine can turn into a job , whew. and not to mention
tryin to have a life too lol. I miss ya'll. hope all is well with
everyone....how ya'll durrin??? hehehe
the latest with me.....or my hair i should say, i rediscovered
unrefined shea butter, and the wonders of the softness it can
provide....the first time i used it , i used way too much and it had
my hair all gooked toghether lol...this time i did it right and used
less and it was wonderfull
i also discovered by accident (ok , laziness) that leaving
conditioner in the hair (long as its not protien) is a wonderfull
thing...i did this with my daughter, what can i say the days kept
coming and going and i didnt feel like doin her any of those days,
well about 5 days later or so , we rinsed it out finally and wow ,
her hair felt great!!!! better than ever....
Ive been real happy with both of our heads of hair since making
these two discoveries for the both of us
i promise to try to check in here more....
more power to 1 week conditioning and shea butter ya'll lol
peace out, much love always
Iris
oh and pics of the shea butter experience are in my album, not
that ya'll can see the softness or anything, but hey i thought with
the pics ya'll could feel my joy at the softness at least lol
http://public.fotki.com/IRRISISTABLBTCH/
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Here is a poem that Maya Angelou wrote and just thought I should share it with you all because it is very good. Plus I appreciate her more, because we share the same birthday, as well as poetry writing(although a sista don't do it to often anymore) =-). I just think how great it would be if I could inspire,touch, and motivate people like this woman has.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not shouting "I'm clean livin."
I'm whispering "I was lost,"
Now I'm found and forgiven.
When I say..."I am a Christian"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need CHRIST to be my guide.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
and need HIS strength to carry on.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
and need God to clean my mess.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
My flaws are far too visible
but, God believes I am worth it.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain,
I have my share of heartaches
So I call upon His name.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not holier than thou,
I'm just a simple sinner
Who received God's good grace, somehow.
Author ~Maya Angelou~

I know i havent been around much...keepin up on these groups
including mine can turn into a job , whew. and not to mention
tryin to have a life too lol. I miss ya'll. hope all is well with
everyone....how ya'll durrin??? hehehe
the latest with me.....or my hair i should say, i rediscovered
unrefined shea butter, and the wonders of the softness it can
provide....the first time i used it , i used way too much and it had
my hair all gooked toghether lol...this time i did it right and used
less and it was wonderfull
i also discovered by accident (ok , laziness) that leaving
conditioner in the hair (long as its not protien) is a wonderfull
thing...i did this with my daughter, what can i say the days kept
coming and going and i didnt feel like doin her any of those days,
well about 5 days later or so , we rinsed it out finally and wow ,
her hair felt great!!!! better than ever....
Ive been real happy with both of our heads of hair since making
these two discoveries for the both of us
i promise to try to check in here more....
more power to 1 week conditioning and shea butter ya'll lol
peace out, much love always
Iris
oh and pics of the shea butter experience are in my album, not
that ya'll can see the softness or anything, but hey i thought with
the pics ya'll could feel my joy at the softness at least lol
http://public.fotki.com/IRRISISTABLBTCH/

you can use a gentle clarifying shampoo, i used IC pure tea
shampoo on my daughter, it works great for her, but it dried out
my hair somethin feirce (shrug) , look into a gentle clarifying
shampoo, some do acv (apple cider vinegar) rinses for build up
or baking soda, i have never tried them so i cant say how to do
them...sorry, hope that helps. might have to shampoo a little
more often....

I have set up pay pal for those of you who prefer this method. A big
thanks to those who have purchased from me. You will be extremely
satisfied.

Hey guys!
I need some advice. I have been no-pooing for some
time now. And every now and then I decideto wash with
shampoo because of build up. Now I am noticing that I
have more build up than before. What is the best
remedy for this issue without using Shampoo. Shampoo
seem to completely dry my hair out.
Thanks,
Buttafli

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
Anna's weekly hair maintenance
Saturday August 14, 2004
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: The dorms ...
Notes:
Rinse out deep conditioner (alternate between ORS Hair Mayonnaise, Queen Helene Cholesterol/Jojoba Oil, and Motions CPR) from the night before ... shampoo with Aveda Sap Moss Shampoo. Rinse. Condition with Aveda Sap Moss Conditioner ... comb hair while conditioner is in hair. Rinse ... slather hair with Suave Humectant Conditioner, leave in for a few moments and rinse out !!! (Usually style hair in braids or two strand twists.)

In a message dated 8/13/2004 11:55:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, whoodewho@... writes:

Uh, oh....this means you and Anna gon' have to start workin' on a big convention here in a couple years......and I say a couple years, cause I want my hair about 4 inches longer before I come out in public.....LOL -- I'm so funny, I crack myself up, naw seriously......when everybody get their fundage on the same page, we should have a big hookup!!!

It look like we gonna have to get one up and going, well atleast a nappy hair day. It has been discussed that we need to have one, but it is hard trying to get everybody from different area codes in one place ya know. Along with money issues and everything else. LOL @ waiting on ya length, usually i would be saying the same thing but right now a sista is loving her length as well. And I keep thinking what in the world would I do with what would be extradoniary lengths on me(past my shoulders), along with it being natural. I know I would act a fool in the style department along with probally having to up my routine and products, which a sista is getting comfortable with the simple route I have going on. I don't wanna stop the growth just yet cuz I wanna see how long it can get, just don't know how I'mma handle it.
femaleuniqnes

Congrats and hello to all the new members. How do you see the group
rankings?

That's great! The more the merrier.

That seems to be what's going on. Now, if only folx would start posting their newbie profile to go along with the new numbers of people .... [INLINE]
whoodewho <whoodewho@...

I sholl haven't. I thought I'd try the easy way out first. LOL I
will try that in a few minutes. Internally is great. I know for a
fact it works, especially growing out the hair.

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
BigLegsNappy Rejuvenating Retreat
Friday August 13, 2004
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my house
Notes:
Inspired by Anna's Hair Day, i've decided to have a personal retreat every Friday night. Since I'm married and i have no social life (lol), the plan is to pamper myself and treat me special from 6 PM until midnight. Why not all day, you may ask? Well, i aint use to treating myself good for a whole day, and i'd get lost in the confusion. LOL! so, i'm takin babysteps.

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
Anna's Hair Day
Friday August 13, 2004
7:00 pm - 7:00 am
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my dorm room ... :-)
Notes:
Well, another weekend has arrived, and since I'm 0 for 0 when it comes to productive things to do on the weekend, I've chosen Friday as my "hair day." This is where I do my deep conditioning treatment and just relax and give my follicles some TLC. Holla back with your hair day and post it on the group's calender !!!
-Anna-

Peace,
Has anyone tried warm spirit products? I saw a write up on the
company in Essence. Their website is www.warmspirit.com
Peace

Des you are not tripping I meant to post this before but as of now GHNH is number 8 in our category, so we are doing reallyy good to be almost just hitting our 1 year mak...yayayayaya!!!!!! to that. And I would like to add on to what Des said ...Welcome all new members as well as thank you to everybody and all the members for being apart of our group!!
femaleuniqnes

Am I trippin' or is GrowingHealthyNappturalHair's
membership "growing" by leaps and bounds? LOL....anywho Welcome to
all the new people if I hadn't said so already....PEACE
des

In a message dated 8/13/2004 12:45:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, xneeciex@... writes:

Any idea what type of style I should try when I take out my two-
strand twists? I'll a full figured woman and I seem to show weight
most in the face and neck. I'm considering the comb coils. What's
your opinion on this style? I have probably 2-3 inches of
napptural. I'm looking at styles. I'm really excited about the new
me.

Hi Neecie, becoming a new you is such a wonderful thing isn't it??? I love going through new phases,probally wish I had them more often,lol
I am a tall sista and pretty thick,along with having a head that can be quite big at times,lol and I have found that a fuller style usually works best on me. Like a fro,curls,or waves....so maybe that might work for you. But at the same time don't let what you feel far as weight on ya stop ya from working some styles!!. I have many women of full sizes look good in comb coils and other short or less full dos. just let ya confidence and ya strutting do all the work!!
So comb coils you should try and if you don't like them you can un-do them and wear ya hair in a curly style. Or you can leave loose strands out in the front and back along with the comb coils for a different type of look.
Also for other styling options here is a site that lists and shows pictures of different styles along with how tos if you would liek to try them yourself. http://motowngirl.com/how_to.htm
femaleuniqnes

Hi All-
Any idea what type of style I should try when I take out my two-
strand twists? I'll a full figured woman and I seem to show weight
most in the face and neck. I'm considering the comb coils. What's
your opinion on this style? I have probably 2-3 inches of
napptural. I'm looking at styles. I'm really excited about the new
me.
--Neecie

Oooh, I definitely don't know. I heard it's good for your skin (when taken internally)....have you looked it up online through a search engine yet?
Erica <howxcellent@...

Does anyone know the difference in the IU's in Vitamin E Oil? I know
it starts maybe as low as 1,000 and can go as high as 56,000 or
somewhere in that area, but I don't know the difference.

cherettt@a... wrote:
So all of those who haven't truely enjoyed your natural/napptural
journey, i say you should try it. It is a great experience
ditto!!
Tanya

Girl, yes! I live in Georgia, so it is really hot and humid here,
but that little bit of humidity versus all of that heat doesn't seem
to be doing me any good either. PLUS, with school starting back and
me rippin' and runnin' with my kids, Man, I've been bad too....very
bad! LOL!!
Tanya

Hi Femaleunigques,
thanks for the reply. I will try to two strand twist method, I
shouldn't jack it up too bad!
pat

I see 'em. Your hair is so thick and healthy! Love it! [INLINE] I know that afro puff must look marvelous!
cherettt@... wrote:Ok I got 3 pictures in the file section now.

Has anyone ever heard of Nature's blessings hair pomade. I
discovered it about 5 months ago and it is growing my hair like
crazy. It is an all natural product that contains things like
nettle, peppermint, rosemary,etc. If anyone is interested I can
give a complete ingredient list, I am not looking at the jar at the
moment. I so enjoy this product that I started selling it. Everyone
that has purchased it raves about it. It has a pleasant smell and is
very reasonable. Please let me know if anyone would like more
information or would like to purchase it. If for any reason you are
not satisfiedwith it I will gladly refund your money.
Love peace and hair grease lol!

Ok I got 3 pictures in the file section now. Now it came from a camera phone(Anna),lol so the pictures are blurry and I can't really show one of a style yet because whenever I took one with the phone it took its cuteness away,lol. But imma try to work something out. And the one where my arm is up, that is a dark shadow and not hair under my arm,lmaoo.
femaleuniqnes

In a message dated 8/11/2004 3:05:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, douglassandpat@... writes:

I am looking for salons specicalizing in natural hair care. I have
three daughters who need trims and I dare not do it myself.

Hi Pat. Well I know a few directories that list natural hair care and when I checked for Nashville salons t I found 2 that are located their but it didn't say if they specialize in natural hair, just that they deal with african-american hair so maybe you can call and ask them their specialities or go in and view their work. This site also has other salons located in Tennessee as well http://www.afrohair.com/haircare/tn_001.htm#nash
Oh also with trimming their hair an easy way to trim their hair at home that dosen't take much time or give you a guide. is by putting their hair in 2 strand twists all over and just cutting off the very end of the twists.
femaleuniqnes

Go 'head girl! I just wish I could see pictures. [INLINE]
cherettt@... wrote:Ya like the title line say, a sista feel like a newly natural & a new natuaral awakening,lol.

Ya like the title line say, a sista feel like a newly natural & a new natuaral awakening,lol. I mean I always been in love with my natural hair and texture, but lately i have truely been in love. For about 2 or 3 weeks I wouldn't wear any other style but my pony puff. ya I love this style!! People were asking me how I did it like I put loads of work into it and I had to do extra stuff to get it to come out like it did. And to me this is one of the easist styles I have ever had. Then I know I am in love with my natural hair because even tho i don't mind adding extra hair or whatever, I have really became ok without it. For so long even with coming into my naturalness because my hair takes alot to style it fin different styles and with being natural styles like a twist/braid out, or curls I always felt I needed to add hair or go the easier route of using hair that ain't mine.But it comes out just as beautiful or even more beautiful without not adding and doing much to it at
all. And it feels awkward because I always have been the type to just go over and beyond with my hair and hair in general because i love it & sorta felt I had too, but it is a beautiful thing
Oh yea I also had bought quite a few new products or products I don't buy often because so many people and naturals went on and on about it or just to feel like nothing was wrong with me and I was able to try new products,lol. I end up trying out Suauve Aloe Vera conditioner(all right), ORS Carrot Oil(loved it & the smell, but can do without it),Smooth n Shine Polishing Curl Activator Activator Gel with Aloe Vera, Softee Gel.Now these was all cool products but I found after spending my darn money for them,lol. That with sticking with my Olive Oil, Suave Milk n Honey, snd Pro-Tress gel thats all me and my hair needs to be happy =-). Ok now I'm just going on & on now,lol. But basically I am just really allowing myself to enjoy my hair & me it. So all of those who haven't truely enjoyed your natural/napptural journey, i say you should try it. It is a great experience.
femaleuniqnes

In a message dated 8/11/2004 10:49:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, lavendertalkingmoon@... writes:

Has anyone noticed this around their way? I never really had this problem in the south where it's more of a humid heat instead of a dry heat.

Have you cheated on your hair regimen this summer?
Do confuse. Tell the truth and shame the devil! [INLINE]
lol you a messed girl. Honestly I have been the complete opposite...ummm wait that might be a lie,lol. I will admit I have not been done my cholestrol, steam, oil, overnite or whatever type of treatmenst like I said I would and I know should.Oh and I haven't trimmed like I was suppose to either. And I do feel bad =-(. But on the good note, I have been faithful with just leaving my own natural hair out, without no added hair. And been loving it!!! My firend asked me to wear the one wig I made to show it to her yesterday , I wore it for about an hour out the entire day(rest of the day my puff), and when I got in the car and they turned arond the wig was on the seat and the afro puff ponytail was sitting pretty on my head,lol.
femaleuniqnes

I've been bad. Very bad.

Instead of my usual overnight deep conditionings, I've been leaving it in for a few minutes while in the shower - which isn't enough (nothing compares to the softness of overnight conditioned hair).

Why?

Because it's been 90+ degrees for the past few weeks. We had a freak rainstorm last Friday, but other than that, putting conditioner in my hair while it's so dawg gone hot makes the smell of the conditioner so strong it makes your head reel.

Has anyone noticed this around their way? I never really had this problem in the south where it's more of a humid heat instead of a dry heat.

Have you cheated on your hair regimen this summer?

Do confuse. Tell the truth and shame the devil! [INLINE]

Hi,
I am looking for salons specicalizing in natural hair care. I have
three daughters who need trims and I dare not do it myself.
blessings and peace,
pat

Here's an interresting site I found while surfing motown girl's
site. It's all about hair care.
http://www.pantene.com/haircare/hair_twh_toc.htm You will be amazed!

Hey ladies, I went to the motown girl site and tried the hair growth
mixture. I don't know if it will actually promote hair growth, but
it sure does make my scalp sing. It feels great. I'm gonna post the
link below so you all can check it out for yourselves. And let me
warn you, a little is all it takes. I got carried away and greased
myself a little too much. hehehe The only thing about that is, I
think I may have to use that in the mornings rather than at night.
For some reason, after applying it and sniffing the bottles, I
didn't/couldn't go to bed till about 1 this morning. I'm so wired!
I think it's that stuff. It has peppermint and rosemary oil, which
are stimulants. They've probably done more than stimulated my hair
follicles.
http://motowngirl.com/recipes.htm Look for the Hair Growth Mixture.

Hey Ladies! I finally got in contact with the female
who is hosting the nexr meet and greet. It's not
necessarily for this group but I think overall it is
for naturals in particular.
Her name is Ms. Drea and she is a member for
Nappturality.com. Her was her post on the website
about the function. You have to become a member of
that site to get in contact with her (it's free).
Here is what she said about the party.
I just thought I would pass on the information. I am
looking forward to meeting you guys.
OK everyone. I'm opening my home for the August Event.
We've done this before at my house and had a lot of
fun and made some good contacts.
"I call it the Potluck Project. All you do is bring a
covered dish and come prepared to share a project that
you're working on.
In the past people have shared books that they're
writing or reading.
People have also shared home made soaps and or hair
accessories.
SO....We'll network, eat, take pictures.....It'll be
fun!"

Right now I'm sporting a TWA so I don't know.

Beautiful hair!

That was rather sudden. I had just seen him on BET Awards cussing
somebody out that didn't know who he was.

Hey everybody,
Transitioning has made my hair really thick (as it naturally is). For
yall who know how this is, it's really annoying. What is your
favorite style/products to manage thick hair easier? I wrap my hair
after washing it and stuff, but when it's dry I want to put it in a
bun, and sometimes it's so thick that it is really hard.
What style/products do you suggest??
-Shiraz

Lovely picture, Karen. I see what you're talking about now. To me, and I may be wrong, it looks like you have varying textures of hair. I have the same thing. I can do whatever I want to some parts of my hair, but other parts get dry as a bone and refuse to cooperate without tons of moisture. All I can suggest is maybe compensating for that by putting more moisturizer/oils/butters/whatever you use on the drier parts of your hair. HTH

Do you do any protective styling at all like buns or other updos? I find that my hair is very soft if I wear protective styles for awhile before attempting a puff or whatever else.

As for trims, I do my own. I've always had a problem with "scissor happy stylists" as SuperGirl from longhaircareforum.com would say, LOL. You might be able to find a good stylist that cuts exactly how much you want to be cut off, but I think you'd be better off by trimming the dry/raggedy ends yourself. I just take some scissors and use two fingers to hold a piece of hair down while I trim.

I honestly can't give you pointers on how to make sure other stylists know how to deal with your hair cause I haven't found a good stylist yet (aside from the napptural sistahs who hooked me up on 'hair days' they've been the best stylists I've had since becoming napptural).

Karen <autumqueen@...

Even Christie, Barbie's friend, is hip to the napps now! [INLINE]

[INLINE]
~ Anna ~

[INLINE]

I know! I was too shocked. I didn't believe my Soror when she told me. Spent the rest of the morning flipping through channels to make sure it was true. Seemed like he was just coming into his own, again, especially with the Dave Chapelle skit and all. And he was just on the BET awards singing with Teena Marie. The FunkMeister is gone.

Shay
whoodewho <whoodewho@...

Another one of ours is gone.....Rick James, RIP....I'ma be playin'
Mary Jane all weekend, he was just too young. Here is the link if you
wanna read about it. holla lata girls,
des
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBIT_JAMES?
SITE=KYLOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

"If you have no confindence in self, you are twice defeated in the race of life. With confidence, you have won even before you have started." - Marcus Garvey

hi...well..wrote on the calendar the day I used shampoo and now
for three days I have jumped in the shower in the
morning...rinsed my hair and used conditioner and nothing
else....no combing...
today we went for a walk and I had my husband take a pic of my
hair...there was a front one but I didn't like it...lol...but
the back one shows my hair...this is after the shower...and just
a sorta cloth/elastic thing...the thin ones....something I
noticed is that the top of my hair is dryer than the rest of my
hair...which I guess is the sun?...when the wind blows it, it
tends to end up sorta fly away looking...
will get hubby to take another pic of the front...
do have a question though...when it gets to the point where I
feel like I need to sorta trim the ends off...don't want to trim
to to fit some of the shorter lengths...just to sorta get the
dryer ends off...and gradually get it more even in length...how
do I make sure that wherever I go I don't end up with them
chopping it all off?...and how do I make sure the person knows
how to deal with my hair?...ok...maybe I am being over paranoid
but then I am still reacting to what people did to it many years
ago...maybe nowdays people who get their training are more
diversified and know how to deal with curly hair...I don't see
me going any day soon...no matter how uneven it may be....lol
will put the pic also at the site where others have theirs...
always
karen

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
Anna's weekly hair maintenance
Saturday August 7, 2004
12:00 pm - 1:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: The dorms ...
Notes:
Rinse out deep conditioner (alternate between ORS Hair Mayonnaise, Queen Helene Cholesterol/Jojoba Oil, and Motions CPR) from the night before ... shampoo with Aveda Sap Moss Shampoo. Rinse. Condition with Aveda Sap Moss Conditioner ... comb hair while conditioner is in hair. Rinse ... slather hair with Suave Humectant Conditioner, leave in for a few moments and rinse out !!! (Usually style hair in braids or two strand twists.)

Hello Newbie Growing Healthy Napptural

Another one of ours is gone.....Rick James, RIP....I'ma be playin'
Mary Jane all weekend, he was just too young. Here is the link if you
wanna read about it. holla lata girls,
des
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBIT_JAMES?
SITE=KYLOU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

I know huh!

I spritz my hair in the morning with a mixture of olive oil and water. My spray bottle is small, so I fill the bottle up to the rim and add 3-4 tbls or olive oil, sometimes I will add a little African Royale Braid Sheen to it. I bought a product yesterday by Organic called Carrot Oil. It has johoba oil, tea tree oil. ginseng, and I can't remember the others because I am at work and didn't bring the bottle, but it is very soothing and rejuvenating to the scalp. My locs don'g feel dry at all. I don't think I will have the need to add the braid sheen to my spritz.
xneeciex <xneeciex@...

Hello all,
I joined this group months ago when I still had plenty of relaxed
hair. I would read your posts and try to educate myself on what I
needed to do. Well, about 3 weeks ago I made the transition. I had
been going to a Dominican salon and letting them blow my hair stick
straigt, well almost, and enduring a burning scalp in the process.
Finally, I just said forget and headed to Harlem to get it twisted.
I wore those for two months, then braids for three months, and now I
have two strand twists.
Well after the braids were left in for three months you can imagine
the joy I had getting the tangles out. Take Down could not help the
situation. I stood in the mirror and just stared at the mess on my
head. I decided that it HAD to go. Ran around the apt. looking for
scissors to take the matter into my own hands! CHOP! No turning
back now. After about 15 minutes of chopping it was finally done.
Now granted it isn't even by any means but it's all natural now. The
next day I headed back to Harlem for the two strand twists and the
braided chastised me for cutting it off. I just smiled and
said "It's hair, it will grow back."
What the heck do I do now? I've been reading about different
products. Several of you have mentioned Aveda and there's always
Carol's Daughter. It felt really dry when it was all said and done.
What is the best product for that. I've read that your hair will
feel dry after having a relaxer for so long. Anyone else with the
same prob. when they transitioned? Any and all advice is
appreciated.
Neecie (Unice)
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Message: 11
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:04:08 -0000
From: "whoodewho"
Subject: Hi Ladies!
I know I been M.I.A. for a few, but I'm busy with getting the kids
ready for school. But I must share with you a stinky new product that
is growing my hair like crazy! LOL....here it is:
http://www.bronnerbros.com/Products/pine_tar.html
My hair is beginning to look like Cree Summers, i aint playin' ya
better get on the bandwagon, LOL....seriously though this stuff needs
to be mixed with something like kiwi or mango butter because it
stinks, my husband said it smells like baby doody, but I don't care,
I'll be smellin' like baby doody if my hair is growin' like a weed.
LOL, just thought I'd share! PEACE
des

How long have you been using it and how soon did you notice the results?

Natalie

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
BigLegsNappy Rejuvenating Retreat
Friday August 6, 2004
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my house
Notes:
Inspired by Anna's Hair Day, i've decided to have a personal retreat every Friday night. Since I'm married and i have no social life (lol), the plan is to pamper myself and treat me special from 6 PM until midnight. Why not all day, you may ask? Well, i aint use to treating myself good for a whole day, and i'd get lost in the confusion. LOL! so, i'm takin babysteps.

Hello all,
I joined this group months ago when I still had plenty of relaxed
hair. I would read your posts and try to educate myself on what I
needed to do. Well, about 3 weeks ago I made the transition. I had
been going to a Dominican salon and letting them blow my hair stick
straigt, well almost, and enduring a burning scalp in the process.
Finally, I just said forget and headed to Harlem to get it twisted.
I wore those for two months, then braids for three months, and now I
have two strand twists.
Well after the braids were left in for three months you can imagine
the joy I had getting the tangles out. Take Down could not help the
situation. I stood in the mirror and just stared at the mess on my
head. I decided that it HAD to go. Ran around the apt. looking for
scissors to take the matter into my own hands! CHOP! No turning
back now. After about 15 minutes of chopping it was finally done.
Now granted it isn't even by any means but it's all natural now. The
next day I headed back to Harlem for the two strand twists and the
braided chastised me for cutting it off. I just smiled and
said "It's hair, it will grow back."
What the heck do I do now? I've been reading about different
products. Several of you have mentioned Aveda and there's always
Carol's Daughter. It felt really dry when it was all said and done.
What is the best product for that. I've read that your hair will
feel dry after having a relaxer for so long. Anyone else with the
same prob. when they transitioned? Any and all advice is
appreciated.
Neecie (Unice)

In a message dated 8/6/2004 11:48:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, howxcellent@... writes:

I was looking through the hair gallery on nappturality.com and found
this on one of the member's page.
They wanted your lips, and with injections they got them

That was off the hook and true, thanks 4 sharing it with us. But the thing that gets me is now the white people more so than our own can compliment us and our features at the same time trying to get them,lol
femaleuniqnes

I was looking through the hair gallery on nappturality.com and found
this on one of the member's page.
They wanted your lips, and with injections they got them.
They wanted your color, and through tanning they got it.
They wanted your body, and with a little lifting and tucking they got
that too...
But they couldn't get your hair, so they made you hate it.

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
Anna's Hair Day
Friday August 6, 2004
7:00 pm - 7:00 am
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my dorm room ... :-)
Notes:
Well, another weekend has arrived, and since I'm 0 for 0 when it comes to productive things to do on the weekend, I've chosen Friday as my "hair day." This is where I do my deep conditioning treatment and just relax and give my follicles some TLC. Holla back with your hair day and post it on the group's calender !!!
-Anna-

Can you get this Pine Tar from Sally Beauty Supply, or where can you get it and for how much?
whoodewho <whoodewho@...

I know I been M.I.A. for a few, but I'm busy with getting the kids
ready for school. But I must share with you a stinky new product that
is growing my hair like crazy! LOL....here it is:
http://www.bronnerbros.com/Products/pine_tar.html
My hair is beginning to look like Cree Summers, i aint playin' ya
better get on the bandwagon, LOL....seriously though this stuff needs
to be mixed with something like kiwi or mango butter because it
stinks, my husband said it smells like baby doody, but I don't care,
I'll be smellin' like baby doody if my hair is growin' like a weed.
LOL, just thought I'd share! PEACE
des
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Lashawn Gee
Administrative Specialist
Family & Youth Inc.
1804 Martin Luther King Jr. Pkwy Suite 112
Durham, NC 27707
(919) 493-8793 x222

I know I been M.I.A. for a few, but I'm busy with getting the kids
ready for school. But I must share with you a stinky new product that
is growing my hair like crazy! LOL....here it is:
http://www.bronnerbros.com/Products/pine_tar.html
My hair is beginning to look like Cree Summers, i aint playin' ya
better get on the bandwagon, LOL....seriously though this stuff needs
to be mixed with something like kiwi or mango butter because it
stinks, my husband said it smells like baby doody, but I don't care,
I'll be smellin' like baby doody if my hair is growin' like a weed.
LOL, just thought I'd share! PEACE
des

Welcome, leshanda!

Feel free to post away. (oopsie, sorry about sending that first one to you, leshanda. ;-) )
leelee morton <leshanda32@...

Welcome to the group Leshanda, we are glad to have you!! I noticed on your profile you talked about learning how to style your hair well if you look in the file section of the group page it has some files on how to do different styles as well as websites. And here is one that shows you a picture and step by step on styling as well as any and everything else you would like to know about being natural. http://motowngirl.com/how_to.htm
femaleuniqnes

Message: 10
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:38:47 -0000
From: "Erica"
Subject: Re: 911
It's in a blue bottle with 911 going down the side.
Thank you erica, I will look out for that bottle.

Natalie

Welcome, Crickett! It seems like you're well in tune with your hair already. I look forward to your addition to the group as a positive example of cultivating locs. We have decent number of other loc wearers in the group as well. Make yourself at home. [INLINE]
Crickett Mason <masoncrickett@...

Even Christie, Barbie's friend, is hip to the napps now! [INLINE]

[INLINE]
~ Anna ~

[INLINE]

Hello,

My name is Crickett and I am a female. [INLINE] I live in St. Louis Missouri and I was surfing the web for different discussion forums on natural hair and locs. I have not had a perm since March 04. I knew then I did not want another perm. I wore two strand twist with my natural hair and crochet hairstyles. I decided to get micro braids with the wet and wavy hair around the second week of May. After doing alot of reading and research on locs, sisterlocs and natural hair, I made the decision to just loc my hair. It was time for the braids to come down and I had been read where people transitioned into locs from their braids. During my research, I have seen so many pretty pictures of locs and that was another inspiration. So having made this decision, I feel free with my hair and I am excited because some of my hair has already locked. I have 1-2 inches of new growth. My goal is to have locs about the same size as sisterlocs. The first time I retwisted my hair,
which was about three weeks ago, I used Murray's Beeswax. I liked the way it, but I have not heard too many good stories about beeswax. I spritz my hair with a mixture of olive oil and water. Sometimes I add a little African Royale Braid Sheen and Organic Mayonaisse Leave In Conditioner. It is time for me to do maintenance and I am going to use OR Loc Gel this time. I have had the opportunity to try any of the eo I have read about, but I will get around to it. Right now, I usually pull the front of my hair up into a ponytail and let the back hang down, or I pull all of it up into a loose ponytail. To add a little flavor, I sometimes pull some of the hair out around the hairline. I don't really have a favorite product yet. My birthday is 12/08. I can give advice from some of the things I have and will experience. I can be supportive to everyone and I hope to gain the same. My ultimate goal is to have a head full of beautiful locs. Patient is a virtue and when
growing locs you gain patience. Lauryn Hill was my inspiration towards investigating natural hair and locs.

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:56:24 -0000
From: "autumqueen"
Subject: Re: Peoples Views on Natural(long)
....saw something recently where a little girl had sorta
the long afro look and the mom came on the show and it was all about
how kids made fun of the little girl and how unhappy she was about
her hair and so they set her up to make it straighter and all the
sudden life was good etc etc....and I could only think "how sad" that
she will probably spend many year and money on trying to keep her
hair from being what it is...
thank you again for your input...
always
karen
It is very sad that we have been taught to hate ourselves. I told my mother in law that I recently went natural and that sometimes I'll sport the fro. She had such a look of "oh my gosh are you serious?" Like it wasn't acceptable. I expect that stupidity from white people, not from my own. It's sad because we have been fooled into hating our own beauty. The fro wasn't just a style back in the day. The fro is our hair. Naturally.

Natalie

Great!

I'm going to put in some twists tonight myself. I'm going to try to leave them in for at least a week, but we'll see.
f_silvi2000 <f_silvi@...
Felicia

[INLINE]

Afro Ken ... Afro Kan ... Afrocan ... African ...

Displaying the versatility of the afro for a hot minute. [INLINE]

~ Anna ~

I managed to keep my box braids in for two weeks and one day. It was
tough and I don't think I will do it again. I think I got some
breakage from keeping them in that long, and they were really tough
to take out, probably because i rinsed them daily to keep the itches
away. All in all my hair felt really good when I took them down. I
plan to do twists tonight. Still sticking with the protective styles
challenge. Hopefully I will be able to do a bun soon!
Felicia

Carol's Daughter <sales@...

From: "Carol's Daughter"
To: "klwoodard"
Subject: Carol's Daughter August Specials
Date: 05 Aug 04 08:25:36 -0500

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Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
Vanessa (Turquiose94)
Thursday August 5, 2004
All Day
This event repeats every year.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 58 minutes.
Event Location: everywhere ! ! !
Notes:
E'ryone show Vanessa (Turquiose94) some love today as she celebrates her debut onto the napptural scene. On this day, in 2002, Vanessa became a member of the natural hair community ! ! !

This is what we're here for!

NO, you're not wrong for feeling what you feel.

NO, you're not alone in going through positive and negative experiences because of how you choose to wear your hair.

Feel free to post anytime. Any other questions/comments you have are also welcome.

Heck, one of the main reasons I want out of my parents' house so fast is because my mom has no problem feeling like she can talk about my hair 24/7 and how "much better" I looked in middle/high school with my permie hair. I just thank heavens everyday that I saw the light before my head started looking tore up with dime size and bigger bald spots from relaxing like her. I love her dearly, but I just can't hang with her now that I'm an adult.
autumqueen <autumqueen@...

[INLINE]

Afro Ken ... Afro Kan ... Afrocan ... African ...

Displaying the versatility of the afro for a hot minute. [INLINE]

~ Anna ~

Hey gang! I tried the shealoe butter/shea oil mix on my hair today
and found that it does just about the same thing as the mango
butter/coconut oil. They both give my hair a sheen, can't use too
much oil. Also, they help retain my curls. I give the shealoe
butter/shea oil mix a thumbs up.

thank you for sharing the pictures....I will have to get my husband
to take some of mine...and yeah...you're right...what works for one
persons hair doesn't necessarily work on someone else's hair....
on the show that I saw...the little girl...think that's what they did
initially...like the hot comb thing and then were going to set it up
to do the actual chemical deal to straighten it...
guess that's what I meant was hairstyles...I tend to have the
hairband with the big poof in the back...it's not quite long enough
to do the scruntch things...I bought some and ever now and then try
them...but I have also been trying to get it in a ponytail type
thing...not realizing that I could do other things...did try like
sorta parting it and taking the front/sides and just twisting it and
pulling it back and pinning it...with the back still all poofy...but
guess I need to get creative and experiment.....
I feel fortunate that my husband happens to like my hair...he met me
with it...lol...whereas my first husband met me when I was
straightening it...unfortunately he also liked long hair...and dark
hair...I was 17...what did I know...so went along with buying a long
dark fall...looked really good with my pale/freckled skin....I looked
sick or something...when I was 30 and got my hair cut...some of the
curl was already growing back in...I walked in the door and he took
one look at me and said "I don't like it"....
I do get a kick out of the grandkids...and no...none of them got my
hair...all straight as a bone hair...along with my kids...I figure it
will be the great grandkids...and people will be going "huh?"...just
like they did with me...lol....but the grandkids are little and they
like to pat my hair...they look at it sorta quizically...trying to
figure it out....I think my one grandaughter when she was around 3
even asked me "grandma...why your hair like that?"
thank you for I guess sorta letting me talk about it...I can laugh
now about being called "Bozo the Clown"...and old TV program many
moons ago....but back then it wasn't funny...
always
karen

thank you...it's cool to be able to get ideas and suggestions...will
try it and let you know how it works...right now I just use the
Pantene and the Infusium 23...think I forget which one I am using so
end up with both....and then I put some of the Infusium leave in
stuff in a spray bottle with some water and sometimes touch up with
it if it's really dry or frizzy...
always
karen

Hi Felicia...thank you for the information....actually someone once
told me to mix like oil with my shampoo....I tried it with olive oil
and it was a mess to get out of my hair...course I wonder if I used
too much of the olive oil...
always
karen

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The Alabama group will be meeting sometime in September (date not set
yet), you are welcome to join us if you like. np.com has an Atlanta
group that meets regularly. I will see if I can get some info on the
next gathering.
Felicia

I have just moved into the Atlanta area and I would
like to know when was the last time we had a meet and
greet and when is the next one? If we haven't talked
about one coming up, we should get on the topic of
that. I am interested in meeting some new people. In
KC,where I came from, the females didn't seem as
interested. SO ladies lets figure out when we should
have the next one.
Buttafli

In a message dated 8/3/2004 7:18:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, theprincess725@... writes:

Are any of you currently doing them? What essential oils are you
using? How often are you performing the massages? How do you
avoid/minimize tangles?

Me for one is lazy, I should be doing massages but i don't. But the few times I have, I have used store bought Olive Oil, ORS Carrot Oil, or African Pride or Royale Body & Hair Oil. And with my own hair tangles really don't get to me 4 some reason, but when it does I usually load my hair up with conditioner, oil, and some water and just go through it.
But finger or regular combing or brushing your hair before, during, or after a shampoo or just while the hair is wet and well moisturized will help. Along with combing or brushing your hair in sections.
femaleuniqnes

Are any of you currently doing them? What essential oils are you
using? How often are you performing the massages? How do you
avoid/minimize tangles?

Karen,
Welcome to the group and I am so glad you posted. My sisters first
relaxer was a Curl Free so you kinda reminded me of her. They still
make it and it is the only relaxer I know of that doesn't have an
African American on the box! Feel free to ask questions and we will
all try our best to answer. First, the tighter the curl in the hair
the more it tends to be dry, frizzy and susceptible to breakage.
Combat that with moisture. I only comb my hair with drenched with
conditioner, that keeps the breakage down to a minimum. I rinse my
hair daily and condition several times a week. I minimize my use of
shampoo because it tends to dry my hair out. A good leave-in
conditioner is a must for maintaining moisture. I use Paul Mitchell
the conditioner. A protein conditioner will help damaged hair but
don't use more that once a month or it can lead to dryness.
Felicia

This message was meant for Christel. And I meant Wella Color.
Felicia

I don't shampoo my hair often at all. Only about once a month in the
summer and once a quarter in the winter. However I do rinse daily
and conditioner wash several times a week. Shampoo tends to dry my
hair out. Once a week I clarify with conditioner mixed with lemon
juice and that prevent buildup. The only time I shampoo more often
is when i use products with mineral oil because they tend to build
up. I haven't had any problems with build up of natural oils and
butters.
Felicia

I think it's an excellent idea and probably the best thing to do if you're experiencing a lot of dryness with shampooing. Just pay attention to your scalp and how it reacts. If you have a history of dandruff problems, it might not be the best thing to do, but otherwise, go for it.

As for build up, I really don't see it as a problem as long as you clarify/shampoo at least occasionally like your sister does.
autumqueen <autumqueen@...

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Natural butters keep the moisture within my hair shaft...it also helps to make my hair feel soft.

For many people with coily/kinky hair, trying different products is the only way to figure out what works for them. Aveda works great for me, but other nappturals have had less than stellar experiences with it. Just thought I'd put that out there in case you end up finding something else that works great for you. [INLINE]

morning...thank you for the ideas...I realized in reading your reply
how very little I have really done with my hair in a longer
state...although...just thought of something....I do remember a long
time ago sorta braiding it like it would be two pony tails and then
pinning them sorta up on my head....hadn't thought of that for at
night...might work and like you said keep it from sorta standing on
end in the morning....along with like you said maybe spraying a
little of the leave in conditioner...I wonder if the reason that
certain areas seem more frizzy is like when a kid sleeps and from the
moving around of their head they end up with like it almost
ratted....hard to believe that there was a time when people
deliberately "ratted" their hair...
what do the natural butters do?...
wrote down the Aveda...will check it out...
appreciate the ideas...I think that's mostly what I am looking
for...ideas for care of my hair but also ideas for what to do with
it...
right now it's a combo of how to care for it and also sorta
continuing to work on my way of looking at my hair....all my life
people said I was "lucky" to have naturally curly hair...all my life
I hated it and when I looked in the mirror I saw it as ugly...I
wanted long straight hair cause that was supposedly "pretty"...grew
up in the 50's and 60's in Southern California...surfer girls...I
hated swimming in High School...even forged notes from my mom saying
I was on my period...till they contacted my mom cause I seemed to be
on a perpetual period...just to get out of swimming cause of what my
hair would look like afterwards...now I try and look at it with
different eyes...or a different perspective...
this will sound a bit strange but one of the things I had to "learn"
to do and be ok with was letting the wind blow my hair...letting it
move if it wanted to...then when my sister was staying with me we
went outside and the wind was blowing...her hair comes down to below
her shoulders and it was almost standing up in the back from the
wind...and didn't phase her...so now when I am outside and my hair
decides to move I tell myself "it's ok"...crazy I guess...
just seems such a waste that I spent so many years hating something
on top my head...but guess it doesn't help that in society we have
advertising to sorta pound into our minds as to what is pretty or ok
and anything not that is somehow something that has to be controlled
or changed....saw something recently where a little girl had sorta
the long afro look and the mom came on the show and it was all about
how kids made fun of the little girl and how unhappy she was about
her hair and so they set her up to make it straighter and all the
sudden life was good etc etc....and I could only think "how sad" that
she will probably spend many year and money on trying to keep her
hair from being what it is...
thank you again for your input...
always
karen

my hair seems to do that to...like it can't get enough
moisturizing....
was wondering on shampooing....if a persons hair tends to be dryish
should they shampoo less...I think I remember my sister saying that
she only actually shampooed her hair like once a week...but would
shower/bathe each day and just use conditioner...seems like that
would build up conditioner in the hair...
always
karen

In a message dated 7/29/2004 7:30:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, ross2062@... writes:

Easier to manage. And I
thought to myself, why didn't I think of that? So I
did it and boy did it help. I didn't even have to dry
my hair with a towel. I was so pleased with the end
results that now this is going to be part of my
routine for now on out. No more scrunching up my hair
and mishandling it the way I have. That has to mean my
hair go some much need moisture by not drying it. So
for those of you that have that hard to manage hair
like I do, I think I found a piece of the problem. I
think my hair is happy about that!

I'm glad you found something that works for you, and like you said I know your hair is happy too!! That is one of the easiest way of dealing with natural hair during and after it is washed. Because if some people tangle and matt their hair together it si done and over for them. I wish when I was younger and natural my mom would have thought about that,lol. Cuz we use to struggleeeeeeee. Also if you havent tried it, sometimes twisting the hair in a big 2-strand twist or bantu knot helps to know which piece you have already finished or do it in those ways to help with drying ya hair after a wash.
femaleuniqnes

Thanks. Just be patient. I was 3 or 4 months into loc'ing when I decided to color them for the first time. It's now been almost 4 years. [INLINE]

Shay
clhh_00 <clhh_00@...

your hair is gorgeous. and i like the curly sue look! locs
definitely look good on u! i cannot wait til i am fully loced so i
can jazz them up w/some color!

"If you have no confindence in self, you are twice defeated in the race of life. With confidence, you have won even before you have started." - Marcus Garvey

Nah, not really. She just used the Wella color. Can't really credit Sheniqua with coming up with that color, though . . . .although she did a great job, my original stylist Simone (in Scotland) decided that the Wella coloring system would probably work bet