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I'm a bit late but WELCOME TO THE GROUP!!!

If you have any questions or comments about transitioning, just let us know.

I love the progress I am seeing while growing out my hair. When I was
getting relaxers I could never tell how much my hair was growing. Now
that I'm growing my natural hair out, I can just put a ruler up to my
new growth and see for myself.
BIG HUGE DILEMA
NEED HELP PLEASEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like to wear my hair straight, mostly because thats what im used to
doing. The problem is everytime I flat iron my hair, my roots
straighten out for 10 minutes if i do it myself or 4 days if i go to
a stylist and have her flat iron it and pay $65.
Does anyone know how to striaighten and keep straight 4a/4b hair? Do
you think I should invest in a Pressing Comb? I've tried $40 dollars
flat irons and $100+ dollar flat irons and none of them can keep my
roots straight.
I only have 2 inches of new growth and I don't plan on getting the
big cut anytime soon.
Since I started growing my hair out I learned that many black
beauticians don't know a thing about growing out healthy natural
black hair.
I also found out that neither did I. lol :)-
The products I am currently using are Wild Growth Hair oil, UBH
conditioner, Moisture max, and when my bottle of Pantene Relaxed and
Natural Shampoo runs out I will begin the No shampoo/conditioner wash
method.
Recently I've started having a lot of breakage so I'm going to start
using the Aphogee reconstructer
I have a question about hot oil treatments for natural hair. Does
anyone that has natural hair do these and are they helpful for
natural hair or is this just for people with relaxed hair?
This morning in church I saw a sistah with beautiful all natural hair
and i was tempted to chop the relaxer out of my hair with some
scissors, knife, spoon, or whatever i could find when i saw her hair.
it was really tight natural curls that with a part on the side and an
original look i cant really explain it but im rambling so thats my
progress

Hello All,
I have not posted in a while, but I always read the helpful advice
offered here. I am trying some new products: elasta qp feels like
silk, elasta qp design lotion,elasta qp glaze, and protectiv anti-
breakage strengthener. My hair has been breaking ever since I had it
pressed bone straight a few months ago. Hopefully these products
will help. Have any of you ever used them? I am at my wits end with
my hair. I always have it either an afro puff( which may be
contributing to the breakage) or braids. It seems like every thing I
try causes my hair to break. I'm tempted to just cut it short and
put on a hat!!!!!

1st ANNUAL NATURAL HAIR PARTY AFFAIR
for Men & Women 21 years and over
We're coming together to celebrate the natural beauty of Locks, Afro's, Twists, Braids, etc. Straight haired folks are welcome too! Very Happy
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7:00 pm - 12:30 am
Theme: Jamaican-Caribbean Escape
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8400 s. Cicero Avenue
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Music presented by "Sounds Good Productions
Live Band "Gizzae Reggae Band"
Dinner: Meat menu and Vegetarian menu selections offered
Cash Bar
Vendors: Warm Spirit, Just the Scent of It, Sterling Silver by Carmen, Sister Beads by Rochelle, Lock Adorments by Gold Signature to name a few.
Attire: Casual Dressy
Tickets on Sale Now w/ Limited Seating for $42.00 per person
Contacts for Information & Ticket Purchase:
Native Touch Natural Hair Studio @ 708-758-2798
Landa's Locks @ 773-221-8872

I pointed out to you the stars (the moon) and all you saw was the tip of my finger.

- African proverb

Welcome Von(smile)
BrwnWmn <brwnwmn@...

In a message dated 2/13/2005 12:07:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, ballersonsite@... writes:

Hello Newbie Growing Healthy Napptural
Hair Head !!!
Please fill out the following profile
and send it to

It sounds really dirty, and the only effective way to really clean
it thoroughly (which is what may be needed) is by washing. :S Hope
you find a way that suits you!
-Shiraz

hi
i spent a lot of money on my kinky twist and i noticed my scalp was very oily. It has only ben 8 days and im ready to take loose. I cant wash it and it itches. what should i do? maybe i should try to use sea breeze again

I brought this Lemongrass and Lavender soap by Silk Elements. Can it
be used on Your hair or just your skin?

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
BigLegsNappy Rejuvenating Retreat
Friday February 11, 2005
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my house
Notes:
Inspired by Anna's Hair Day, i've decided to have a personal retreat every Friday night. Since I'm married and i have no social life (lol), the plan is to pamper myself and treat me special from 6 PM until midnight. Why not all day, you may ask? Well, i aint use to treating myself good for a whole day, and i'd get lost in the confusion. LOL! so, i'm takin babysteps.

A last minute post in case you haven't heard. Birmingham Alabama
Nappturality members are meeting tomorrow (Feb 12)at 2pm a the Cheese
Cake Factory. Log on to Nappturality for more details.
Felicia

Hi Ms. Yvette,
Your hair is so cute.
Crickett

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Thank you, now should I just drop some in then mix it together with
the shea butter and black soap?

Hello everyone, I don't know how to post pictures on the group page. Tis is the only way I know how to share my pic with you all. This is me [INLINE] .

Yvette N.

Bergamot & Coriander!!! Smells wonderful together!
afrikaa <afrikaa@...

Hello all. Just wondering what essential oils can I mix into my shea
butter and my black soap. Both seem to work great for my skin and
hair but the smell on both just seem so BLAH. I have dry skin and dry
scalp, so something that would help out with problems would be great.
Also, how should I mix them in, by hand, mixer, melting, or what?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Afrika
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Stop it! You are going to make me run out and get some. You know I
cannot control myself when it comes to conditioners.
Felicia

Hello all. Just wondering what essential oils can I mix into my shea
butter and my black soap. Both seem to work great for my skin and
hair but the smell on both just seem so BLAH. I have dry skin and dry
scalp, so something that would help out with problems would be great.
Also, how should I mix them in, by hand, mixer, melting, or what?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Afrika

Has anyone tried any of Karen's Body Beautiful products? Has anyone tried the
Hair Butter
or Hair Cream? How does it stake up next to CD's Healthy Hair Butter?
I'm thinking about trying it b/c it doesn't have any beeswax in it which is a
NO-NO for my
hair. Let a sistuh know!!!
-keke

In a message dated 2/7/2005 8:37:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, youareblessedforeal@... writes:

can you cut 3 inches off your hair every time you get it done instead
of doing the big chop. If i cut three inches off my hair for five
months all of my relaxed hair will be gone. RIght now i have 5 inches
of relaxed hair. Im so pround of my self it has ben four months since
i had a perm. 4 whole compete months!!!

You can cut as much hair as you like and during whatever a mind of time you choose is comfortable for you. Over a years time I gradually cut off my remaining relaxed ends, and didn't do it in one big chop.

Congrats on your 4 permless months & many more!!

femaleuniqnes

Hi

First with locs many people suffer from them thinning or just falling out on their own...regardless of what size,length, or way they are done. Although sometimes starting with thinner locs like sisterlocs the hair may easily become thinner or fall off. Ways you & your stylists could have dealt with it was by marrying or sewing 2 locs or so together, starting the locs new in those areas, or using a bit of extension hair or yawn to the areas where the locs fallen out for length and to you get it caught up with the rest of the hair. And with lent being apart of your hair and locs....lent and dirt often times get trapped into locs so you must be very careful of that. Products heavy in oil,mineral oil, beeswax, or any heavy products
often times draws dirt and lent in more and traps them within the hair making it harder to come out, so if at all possible try to limit products with those ingredients and when sleeping wrap the hair in a satin or silk scarf, and sleep on silk or satin pillowcases instead of cotton if you can.

Far as moisture issues, I know how it is my hair is always extremly dry as well. Products I highly recommend is all natural hair butters such as shea butter, braid sprays,a bit of activators,conditioners with a little water in a spray bottle where you can mist on the hair through out the day. And one product I just got into is Suave 2-Minute Recovery Deep Conditioner and it adds a nice moisture and softness to my hair, a line I would recommend is Organic Root Stimulator especially their carrot oil. Doing different natural treatments with real fruits & store bought products such as bannas,strawberries, advocatos,honey etc I am soo sure you will find something that will give you great moisture.' Braiding or twisting the hair up nightly with a good moisture applied to the hair and using a plastic cap at night or just lounging around the house really locks in moisture to the hair.

Styles I would say that might work well for you and your hair is comb coils, finger coils or just fingerstyling the hair or bantu knots and flat twists if you have enough hair.
femaleuniqnes

In a message dated 2/4/2005 3:40:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hazelpone@... writes:

Hello all,
I went to get my hair tighented up, and my Sisterloc's consultant
noticed
large areas where locs were gone, they had just fallen out! I had
also
noticed this, and asked her to look closely at my hair, as it felt
like locs
were missing, but the new-growth was too wild for me to be sure, the
consultant confirmed it.
She told me I needed to cut it all off and start over. UGH! She
cut, 12
inches of locs, I cried and now I have a TWA. I have 2 inches of
hair that
looks like 1/2 inch because of shrinkage. I did get my hair trimmed
so it
will grow out nice and even.
I am supposed to see her in about a month to start SL's again, but am
not
sure that this is the best option. I am trying to decide if I should
go
back to SL's, or maybe try something else, like traditional locs, or
one of
the temporary styles until I get more length and can make a more
confident

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Bless your heart, Felicia. That Moisture Maniac is THE TRUTH ! ! ! A sistah off of nappturality.com sent me a sample when I was very low budget (now I'm just plain low budget instead of very low budget [INLINE] ). That stuff is like moisture x2 for the hair! I don't know about the Control Freak stuff, but I have nothing but good stuff to say about TIGI products. I still roll with the Chocolate Head every 3 or 4 months. Still works like a charm.
f_silvi2000 <f_silvi@...
use these products? How do they work? I was thinking about trying
the Control Freak Conditioner or the Moisture Maniac Conditioner.
Felicia

Even Christie, Barbie's friend, is hip to the napps now!
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The quarts of shampoo and conditioner are available for $12. Anyone
use these products? How do they work? I was thinking about trying
the Control Freak Conditioner or the Moisture Maniac Conditioner.
Felicia

I know that this has nothing to do with hair or black male, female relationships, but I had to share it with you all. I fanily member sent it to me. I hpoe you enjoy it also.

Subject: This is Good

A fifth grade teacher in a Christian school asked her class to look at TV commercials and see if they could use them in some way to communicate ideas about God.
Here are some of the results:
scroll down . ...

God is like...
BAYER ASPIRIN
He works miracles.
God is like...
a FORD
He's got a better idea.

God is like...
COKE
He's the real thing.

This is great

God is like...
HALLMARK CARDS
He cares enough to send His very best.

God is like...
TIDE
He gets the stains out that others leave behind.

God is like...
GENERAL ELECTRIC
He brings good things to life.

God is like...
SEARS
He has everything.

God is like..
ALKA-SELTZER
Try him, you'll like Him.

God is like...
SCOTCH TAPE
You can't see him, but you know He's there.

God is like...
DELTA
He's ready when you are.

God is like...
ALLSTATE
You're in good hands with Him.

God is like...
VO-5 Hair Spray
He holds through all kinds of weather.

God is like...
DIAL SOAP
Aren't you glad you have Him? Don't you wish everybody did?

God is like...
the U.S. POST OFFICE
Neither rain, nor snow, nor sleet nor ice will keep Him from His appointed destination.

forward this to 10 people so that they can know what God is like....

BLESSINGS FROM MY HOUSE TO YOUR HOUSE

Yvette N.

www.freewebs.com/growhairfast

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Want long hair the natural way?
http://www.freewebs.com/growhairfast/

Whoo... Slow down and take a deep breath. It must have been really
traumatic getting your locs cut. Maybe you should take a little
while to try and figure out what is going on before you make the
committment (time and money) to starting SL again. I have heard of
people losing locs before, it happened to my neice, but there is
usually some underlying reason. If you don't figure out the reason
you may be back at the same place in a couple of years.
Next the dryness. One thing that really helps my hair hold moisture
is running a humidifier in my house (actually two). They are not
very expensive and you should notice a difference in your skin and
hair immediately. Also, some people have had success with natural
aloe gel and honey. I know several loc wearers that only use aloe
and honey on their hair (no oils) and they have no problems with
dryness.
Hope you figure this out. Let us know how it works out.
Felicia

right now i have kinky twist so i can save up my allowence to buy new
prouducts for my hair. is there any good conditioners leave in
conditioners and grease for hair. I have heard a cople of times
grease is bad for the hair. How often should i wash my hair. Thanks
alot.

In a message dated 2/4/2005 12:36:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ccedwards121@... writes:

Sistas and Brothas of the Napp: Allow me to vent!
I just say a segment of The People's Court where a 'mother' had her
6-yr old daughter's hair 'done' by a salon. She brought that kiddie
perm in a box for them to use and the child was burned!! That's child
abuse! The skank of a mother just didn't get it. She had no clue! She
was 'perming' her daughter's hair so that she could easily comb it.
HA! What an idiot! Her child suffered first degree burns while she sat
her ugly ass in another salon chair getting her hair 'done' and her
child was trying to tell her that she was burning. After the mother's

Lol Oh yea I seen this episode and posted about it a few weeks ago. We were up here going off as well. But you know what this is the mind set of so many people especially black mothers because they were taught the same way or only have been made to believe that perming makes dealing with the hair muchhh easier, and its not always true.So it just becomes a cycle.

femaleuniqnes

In a message dated 2/4/2005 9:13:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, layzie_queen@... writes:

I just wanted to start this thread to keep an "eye out" on the transitioners in the group. :-p Yeah, I'm callin' y'all out. :-)
So, how's your progress coming along
At first it was hard but now that i have my hair done Im living large and tacking charge
What dilemmas are you experiencing ? ? ?
Are you any closer to doing the big ol' "snip snip? ? ?"
In may all this relaxed junk is coming out even thogh most of it is almost gone.
Do you have any questions about the lovely coils springing from your scalp . ? ? ? If so, ask away ! ! ! :-D.
What the hell are these little dread loc things in the middle of my head. It is making my hair impossible to comb. How to get rid of them. How to prevent them.

Hello E'rybody !!!
I hope you're having a wonderful day well, it's been a few weeks, what's going on with you and your journey to grow some healthy napptural hair.

It has ben hard. First I cut a lot of my hair but i steel have some relaxed hair. so the only styles i can where are braids or kinky twist. I have used weave 4 times my whole life. I dont like it at all, but it will do until I do the big chop. Then i started getting little things that look like dreadlocs in the middle of my hair. My mom has bought lots of prouducts but they all have mineral oil or something else harmful to my hair so i canot apply anything to my hair but olive oil.

Have you tried any new products???

When i take these kinky twist down I am goint to start using almost the whole family of doo gro prouducts. My friend used it for three months plus pink lotion and her hair grew five inches in three months anfter doing the big chop. It looks like it grew 3 inches because it curls.
Have you had any weird experiences with nappy haters recently??? If so, share !!!
Well i did get in that fight . I beat both of them at the same time. I even got to hit one of the girls in the eye with a belt buccle. Im not violent. Both of them spread rummors on me. They always hit me. One time i got my hair done And one of them pored water on my hair and the curls came out. When they started talking about my hair that was the last straw. Message # 7719

The one thing I've noticed about the entire nappy process and continual journey is that the. experiences, products, etc., you experience can either help or hender your process of learning to love every single kink, coil, napp, and curl on your head !!!

peole tell me that me that eggs give your hair a great shine. It worked when i had relaxed hair. But now it made my hair so thick. Not the good kind. Damaged thick. It was not damged it look that way after a good hot oil the next day it looked better.

Are there any products that you would recomend. Something cheap. Im a youger sister. I live off allowence lol. Im turnig 14 this year. next year i can get a job.

conditioner

shampoo

leave in conditoner

grease

Hello all,
I went to get my hair tighented up, and my Sisterloc's consultant
noticed
large areas where locs were gone, they had just fallen out! I had
also
noticed this, and asked her to look closely at my hair, as it felt
like locs
were missing, but the new-growth was too wild for me to be sure, the
consultant confirmed it.
She told me I needed to cut it all off and start over. UGH! She
cut, 12
inches of locs, I cried and now I have a TWA. I have 2 inches of
hair that
looks like 1/2 inch because of shrinkage. I did get my hair trimmed
so it
will grow out nice and even.
I am supposed to see her in about a month to start SL's again, but am
not
sure that this is the best option. I am trying to decide if I should
go
back to SL's, or maybe try something else, like traditional locs, or
one of
the temporary styles until I get more length and can make a more
confident
decision. I can't do extensions, because they dry my hair and the
chemicals
bother me.
Here is my problem: I had major issues with lint and product
buildup. Even
now, with my TWA, I have to be careful to check my hair, as it seems
to want
to cling to everything! Also, I am still dealing with major dryness
issues.
These two things, that are easy for most to deal with, have been
especially
difficult for me, as I don't tolerate 'oils' very well and am still
looking
for something I like that will moisturize and not irritate. As for
the
lint, like I said, even with my TWA, I am having to pull out the
occasional
tiny piece, as my hair wants to grab onto everything, I do believe it
is
because of the dryness. I have checked my dryer and keep the house
dusted,
I don't see an extreme amount around the house, but if there is
anything, it
gets in my hair! This is why I am concerned about starting locs
again, at
least until I get my dryness issues dealt with.
Right now, I am mostly concerned about having a style that I can wash
2
times a week without having to worry about the style coming undone,
but can
also be taken down, let's say every 4-6 weeks at most. I would like
the
style to look nice, as I am keeping my head with a scarf when I go
out, and
would like to wear 'my hair' when I go out, but am not really feeling
such a
short afro. I see some beautiful styles that are very short and
natural,
but am not sure about being able to wash it when I want, etc.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
God bless,
Hazelpone

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
BigLegsNappy Rejuvenating Retreat
Friday February 4, 2005
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my house
Notes:
Inspired by Anna's Hair Day, i've decided to have a personal retreat every Friday night. Since I'm married and i have no social life (lol), the plan is to pamper myself and treat me special from 6 PM until midnight. Why not all day, you may ask? Well, i aint use to treating myself good for a whole day, and i'd get lost in the confusion. LOL! so, i'm takin babysteps.

Sistas and Brothas of the Napp: Allow me to vent!
I just say a segment of The People's Court where a 'mother' had her
6-yr old daughter's hair 'done' by a salon. She brought that kiddie
perm in a box for them to use and the child was burned!! That's child
abuse! The skank of a mother just didn't get it. She had no clue! She
was 'perming' her daughter's hair so that she could easily comb it.
HA! What an idiot! Her child suffered first degree burns while she sat
her ugly ass in another salon chair getting her hair 'done' and her
child was trying to tell her that she was burning. After the mother's
hair was 'done' and they went home, the so-called 'mother' noticed the
burn on the childs neck in her kitchen. This 'mother' was so stupid
she didn't even take her daughter to a doctor to have the chemical
burn treated. DIM DUMB DUMB! I can only hope that the poor child
doesn't have to spend any time in a therapist's chair while trying to
deal with this trauma. Somebody needs to tell her (the child) that she
is beautiful with her own nappy hair. PERIOD. What God gave her is
just fine! I hope child services saw that episode and will look into
that child's predicament. The mother was already under scrutiny for
beating the child with a belt. That's why she didn't report the burn
incident to the authorities or seek medical attention for it. Can
somebody say PARENTING CLASSES?
UGHHHHH!!
Gorgeous

In a message dated 2/2/2005 5:05:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, youareblessedforeal@... writes:

im serious im starting to lppk terrible. i can not comb my hair and
the girl doing my hair refuses to do it until i perm it. Is there any
one you know who lives in jacksonville 32217 or any places to go in
this area.

Sorry i wish I lived close to you, i would hook ya up. Why can't you do it yourself and if the person who does ya hair right just takes there time and uses the right product it is not difficult to work on your natural hair. I

femaleuniqnes

My friend has a natural shop near downtown, near beaver street. do
you know where bethel is? it is near there. I will try to find the
name of the shop for you. the owner's name is charlotte lockett,
check the white pages. she's good people.
B

Well I finally got pictures of my hair growth. I am the sistah who
sells the all natural hair product that alot of you were leary about
well here is the proof.http://www.freewebs.com/growhairfast/

im serious im starting to lppk terrible. i can not comb my hair and
the girl doing my hair refuses to do it until i perm it. Is there any
one you know who lives in jacksonville 32217 or any places to go in
this area.

In a message dated 1/28/2005 11:57:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, whoodewho@... writes:

We are going to the Black and Blue Comedy tour on Feb
13th (Bruce Bruce, Rickey Smiley, Arnez J, Earthquake & DC Curry) I
promise I will try to limit myself to only one glass of Hypnotic --
then again, maybe I'll do a whole half a bottle, what the hay?!! LOL,
okay ladies, just an update. Oh and Cher, if you are reading this
where the hell is Anna? I never see her in here anymore.....tell Ms.
Kitty to get back here and let us know what's up with her and her
nappy self!! LOL -- PEACE -n- BLESSIN'S

sweetie, as a mom and a teacher, I have to say something to you.
Never feel like you have to physically harm someone else over words
about your hair. IT IS NOT THAT DEEP! I'm not sure how old you are,
but it sounds like you are underage. I know you are growing into
yourself, and learning about yourself, and yes that is a wonderful
experience. But you don't have to prove anything to anyone!! I'm
worried that you think fighting is "so cool" for whatever reason.
Especially, in light of the fact that you are trying to prove to your
mother that you are mature enough to make this decision for yourself.
I don't want to see you getting suspended, and believing that
fighting was your only option. You could have schooled the girls
verbally and left them standing there looking stupid. You've been
getting some good advice from the other sistahs on this site, but
keep in mind that you are still growing, and although you may not
agree with what your mother is telling you, you may be the one to
educate her. So choose your words and actions carefully.
Bless
B

Happy Nappyversary to you all & manyyyyyy, manyyyy more to come!!

femaleuniqnes

do you cut hair why it is dry or wet. i usally cut it while it is
wet. what do you think. im also using the no poo meathod.

kia,

stay strong little one. People are going to try you even when you become an adult. I wished I had went natural when I was your age. My hair would be so long and beautiful by now. All I can say is that you are inspiration for other, young and old.

Keep your head up,

Kina
kia <youareblessedforeal@...

when i went to school some of the girls were like why did you do
that. At first i was going to lie and say my hair was damged then i
remenbered what i told my mom. I love my hair and im not ashamed.
THen i said im going napptural. If you dont like the idea keep it to
yourself and maybe i will keep my fists to myself. Two girls tried
me. i took off my belt and beat both of them. Im saspended for the
rest of the day but that was so cool. mom knows im serious now and
she threw the perm away. This is going really good for me. Those
girls are always bothering me. i got to beat them up and im learning
how to take care of my hair better. this has ben a good experence
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
MsShamika, PoetryIsMyPassion, ross2062
Tuesday February 1, 2005
All Day
This event repeats every year.
The next reminder for this event will be sent in 58 minutes.
Event Location: everywhere ! ! !
Notes:
I don't have the exact dates available for these napptural sistahs, but during this month, three women of GHNH will celebrate their induction into the napptural sistahood. MsShamika joined in 2002; PoetryIsMyPassion started in 1998; and, ross2602 began in 2003. Happy Nappyversary ladies ! ! !

when i went to school some of the girls were like why did you do
that. At first i was going to lie and say my hair was damged then i
remenbered what i told my mom. I love my hair and im not ashamed.
THen i said im going napptural. If you dont like the idea keep it to
yourself and maybe i will keep my fists to myself. Two girls tried
me. i took off my belt and beat both of them. Im saspended for the
rest of the day but that was so cool. mom knows im serious now and
she threw the perm away. This is going really good for me. Those
girls are always bothering me. i got to beat them up and im learning
how to take care of my hair better. this has ben a good experence

If you are absolutely sure you want straight hair for you grandma,
and you are willing to spend a little money and protect your "lovely
naps". I have two possibilities for you.
1 - WIG
2- Phony Pony.
In either case you are compromising without damaging your hair or
scalp.
Personally I wouldn't give in at all, but I am stubborn and over 40!
You have to live with your mother but I don't think you have to
sacrifice your hair for that. A third option is a head wrap. That
way she won't have to see it. If you hold your ground but continue
to show you mother respect, I think your she will realize that you
are serious. Keep us posted.
Felicia

A Nappy Hair "Read-In" Affair.

In keeping with the African American Read-In and National Literacy Month, A
Nappy Hair Affair is combining its traditional grass roots hair-grooming
sessions with an open mike Read-In!

The event will be held on Sunday, Feb. 27 from 1 PM until 8 PM at the Sandaga
Market in Dallas.

Bring your spoken word, poetry or passages from other literary works by African
American writers about HAIR and come ready to read.
Bring your own towel and hair products if you want to get your hair 'did.'
ALL hair textures are welcome to this communal, casual and reciprocal hair
affair. You do our hair and we'll do yours.

Admission is $5 and light refreshments will be served.

The Sandaga Market is located at 1325 E. Levee St., Dallas
(off Industrial and Cole Sts. Corner of Cole and Levee)
For more information email manelock@... or call Sandaga Market,
214-747-8431 or ANHA 214-331-2677; www.nappyhairaffair.com

Why don't you just show your folks how proud and beautiful you are
just as you were intended to be. I think perming your hair per
someone else concedes to the notion that straight is right. That
you are not beautiful unless you transform your being by putting
acid on your scalp. Explain to them that OUR HAIR isn't straight.
I think if they really love YOU then they'll love YOU. If you're
going to be an embrassment b/c of your hair, then the problem runs
deeper than that. I don't know...I don't have any suggestions on
how to get hair straight b/c I would never want to fight against
myself to be something I'm not. Maybe your sense of self
acceptance and pride (assuming that's the reason you went natural
in the first place) will help transform them. Sistuh 2 Sistuh.
-keke
On Sun Jan 30 19:18:30 EST 2005, kia

someone help me and fast. we are going to see my sick grandma and my
mom wants me to perm my hair or get it straight. I dont have a flat
iron or a hot comb. I do have a blow dryer. Is there any products
that get your hair straight. what about aphogee. I heard that works.
im willing to spend any amount of money. (not really just 25$ a
little more if i have to) She already bought the perm I have two days
to get my hair straight. I have cut a lot of my hair and i have a lot
of new growth. I dont want to perm it. I have got so far 4 whole
months

I am doing good. I try to get on when I can but haven't had much
time to post lately.
Felicia

u right we should. but we should be meeting soon considering we're
both part of nc sistagirls and we're having a gathering soon. i am
in durham all the time either visiting folk or passing thru on my way
to new bern. christel

I ain't playin' girlfriend, it works!! LOL....How you been?

des
f_silvi2000 <f_silvi@...

Des, I hope you know you made me run out and get ORS Fertilizing
Serum. This stuff better work on my thinning hair or I will hunt you
down ;). Seriously, I though I was over my PJ tendencies, but when
you started raving about these products I figured it couldn't hurt to
try. I will let you know if I see any results.
Felicia

Des, I hope you know you made me run out and get ORS Fertilizing
Serum. This stuff better work on my thinning hair or I will hunt you
down ;). Seriously, I though I was over my PJ tendencies, but when
you started raving about these products I figured it couldn't hurt to
try. I will let you know if I see any results.
Felicia

Pick up the phone and call. Christel you are in Winston and Lashawn
your are in in Durham. It ain't that far!

I second that, a humidifier is a must. I run two in my house all
winter and I can really tell a difference. Also, cover your hair
when go out, dry air will pull the moisture from you hair, and last
use a product to seal in the moisture. I use avocado butter and
olive oil on damp hair. They work wonders.
Felicia

My hair is usually moist in the winter, I have more problems in the summer, but I have had a humidifier in my bedroom for the past 18 mos. and it does wonderfully, especially in the winter in helping to keep my hair/skin moist. (I have psoriasis too, and it helps with that as well). They got 'em at walmart for like $20.00 bucks. I got one at work too!! PEACE!

des
artisticme2001 <artisticme2001@...

Hello everyone! Hope all's well! Has anyone noticed or have any
problems with excessively dry hair this winter season?
Tanya
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Happy end of January(LOL)-- just an update on ME (if anyone gives a
good wazoo) My hair is coming along nicely, it is about 8" long now,
but the shrinkage makes it look like about 5". Although I don't know
the exact month of my total natural self, (I usually go by my drivers
license, because it is a picture of me right before my 1st big chop)
but it is roughly 2yrs and 2 months of freedom from the chemical. I
must confess I need professional help when it comes to the products.
I'm worse than a "Casino Hoe" -- every time I have an extra dollar,
I'm all up in Walgreens or the African shop or the Internet, trying
to cop my next "hair fix" -- LOL...pitiful. Right now I'm wearing a
protective style of about 5 flat-twists going straight back, it is
cute and only takes 10 minutes to do by myself. I am back on ORS
Serum (I rotate products frequently) for about 2 weeks. A new product
I have tried (new to me anyway, but I think it's been mentioned here)
is the Dark & Lovely peppermint shampoo, that is absolutely
wonderful, and the the Dark & Lovely Loc & Twist Butter. I used the
butter to succesfully do my husbands baby locs. It took me two days!!
(It woulda took less time but you know we had to run to the store,
eat, do the laundry, whoop the kids, talk to mama on the phone, watch
the football game, etc...LOL)
If you want to see an example of what I'm talking about go here:
http://www.khamitkinks.com/Twists_Locs.html
click on starter locs -- my hubbys look just like that, only better!!
I tell you, I'm an artist and a scholar, and I'm serious about my
shit! LOL - seriously though, it was my first time doing it, and it
turned out beautiful and he is getting maad compliments everywhere.
Folks askin' where he got it done, and he says "my wife did it" and
then they ask if I can do theirs, and he's like "hell no!" He wants
these fingers all to himself. LOL. And to think he could not stand
the site of my "nappy head self" a few months back. Now he is caught
up in the rapture of NAPPY love. Anywhoo -- our 12th year of marriage
anniversary is on February 6th, but we always celebrate it on
Valentines day. We are going to the Black and Blue Comedy tour on Feb
13th (Bruce Bruce, Rickey Smiley, Arnez J, Earthquake & DC Curry) I
promise I will try to limit myself to only one glass of Hypnotic --
then again, maybe I'll do a whole half a bottle, what the hay?!! LOL,
okay ladies, just an update. Oh and Cher, if you are reading this
where the hell is Anna? I never see her in here anymore.....tell Ms.
Kitty to get back here and let us know what's up with her and her
nappy self!! LOL -- PEACE -n- BLESSIN'S
des

Hello everyone! Hope all's well! Has anyone noticed or have any
problems with excessively dry hair this winter season?
Tanya

its not about the age, its the maturity level. u seem to be doing
well taking care of ur hair and u have the support of ghnh. silvi is
my auntie and i REALLY miss her helping me maintain my locs/napptural
hair but i am SO proud of her and the napptural journey. stay
encouraged and take good care of ur hair. christel
--- In

i saw pictures of silvi whith her growing process. she has pretty
hair. that reminds me how mine use to be. In december i am doing the
big chop. Right now im cutting little by little. Every time i cut it
it seems longer. I see a lot of newgrowth. Thanks a lot you guys. Im
only 13 and people tell me im tou young to go napptural. sometimes i
feel that i am to young to go napptural because i dont know how to
take care of napptural hair. I keep my hair in box braids or kinky
twist with weave. I have learned a few tips on napptural hair. oh and
thanks silvi you encouraged me to go on. If you have any tips please
tell me or if you think i should wait til i get older let me know

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of GrowingHealthyNappturalHair
BigLegsNappy Rejuvenating Retreat
Friday January 28, 2005
6:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Event Location: my house
Notes:
Inspired by Anna's Hair Day, i've decided to have a personal retreat every Friday night. Since I'm married and i have no social life (lol), the plan is to pamper myself and treat me special from 6 PM until midnight. Why not all day, you may ask? Well, i aint use to treating myself good for a whole day, and i'd get lost in the confusion. LOL! so, i'm takin babysteps.

i am a female i have ben giong natrule for three transnitoning three months. one day a woman cut my hair because she permed it wrong and did not want me to see the damage. she goes im going to give you a cut haircut. I know this because i saw the hair in the sink from when she rinsed out my perm. It is my fought. I use to perm my hair a lot because it would go back to its natroule texture in less than three months. This time it stayed perm. By the way i live in jacksonville Florida. you can call me jazzy

Hello everyone,

I know that Biotin is a good supplement for the hair. My question is, does anyone know of any others that are good for the hair as well?

Yvette

Yvette N.

well its ben hard im not completly nappy its only ben three months.
my hair always goes back to its natrule texture but not this time its
only one way to go back cut it. My g mama says if you keep your
braided it might go back to its natrule texture but it wil be better
to do the big chop. ussaly after one month after my perm my hair is
nappy because i do not leave it in a long time. i only perm it to
make my hair mangble.
this time i let someone esle do my perm. i told them not to make it
very straight. just easier to comb are box briads a good idea for
going natrule.conrolls friz up to fast

--- Hi Yvette N.
I started my locs with coils about 7 months ago. I transitioned for
about 7 months before I did the BIG CHOP. I only had about 3 inchs
when I started my locs. I didn't want to start with coils but
because of my hair texture (hair was too soft and curled to tight to
twist while it was so short)that is the way I had to go. I could
have waited longer until I had more hair, but I was ready to get rid
of all the straight hair I had on the ends.
I don't think it really makes a big differce. I think either way as
long as you take care of them as you should they will all turn out
the same way. (loced)
The journey for me hasn't been that bad. It has been 7 months and
most of my hair is semi-loced. All but the top and the sides(by my
temples).
Will you be starting your locs soon?
Hope I helps a little.
Anisa

I just clip the end of my twists every few months. If you are
looking for your hair to be even all over then this may not be a good
idea. My hair is not perfectly even, but it is long enough not to be
noticable.

Hey Tammi! I used to trim my own ends until i started getting my hair pressed every other month starting back in October. When I did it myself, I would twist my hair and cut off the ends. I noticed that I was getting a little scissor happy, lol. So now, I get my hair dusted/trimmed by the person who presses my hair, and she does a good job pressing too, not a hard press at all, and she trims it after she presses it (you can see it at public.fotki.com/bubblylg). She does a much job than me because she can see the back and top of my hair better than I can. Hope all is well! [INLINE]

Lashawn

theprincess725 <theprincess725@...

For those of you who are completely natural, how are you
trimming/dusting your hair/ends? While in twists? After applying
heat? Another method?
It is time for me to trim and I'm considering doing it myself instead
of going to my scissor happy stylist. Any advice?
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Lashawn Gee
Administrative Specialist
Family and Youth and Easter Seals UCP
1804 Martin Luther King Jr. Pkwy Suite 112
Durham, NC 27707
(919) 493-8793 x222

For those of you who are completely natural, how are you
trimming/dusting your hair/ends? While in twists? After applying
heat? Another method?
It is time for me to trim and I'm considering doing it myself instead
of going to my scissor happy stylist. Any advice?

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Think about Fair Trade as the consumer version of a living wage. A living wage
is the minimum that a person needds to make an hour working 40 hrs/week to
support a family of four. This number takes into consideration the cost of
living of an area: Food, rent/mortgage, utilities, transportation and health
insurance, phone.
For example, the living wage in Lynchburg, VA is $9.50/hr. This is for a family
of four. Lynchburg is a relatively small town with a low cost of living, so you
see where the problem is double that in larger cities. Most people here make
$6.50 hr (fast food) and work 50 or more hours a week. To make in the living
wage range, you would either have to work at a foundry, the Frito Lay plant (WOW
chips were created here), for Centra Health, etc. Those are jobs that you need
some type of education for, and you have to be able to pass a drug amd
background check. So unless you force the powers that be to pay a living wage,
then most of them don't.
Fair Trade products simply means that you have a fair trade of money for goods.
It is not unusual to hear about coffee or bananna or fruit growers in other
countries getting paid 2 cents USD for a pound of coffee. And they have to live
for the whole year on maybe 50.00 USD and get two or more other jobs when the
company buying the item has millions of dollars (Starbucks, Walmart, Dole).
Starbucks recently became a fair trade company, but as mentioned before, Walmart
is one of the most egregious habitual offenders of not paying a fair wage.
So we do our part by buying Fair Trade items in the US as we can. Yes, the item
is more expensive. But with time, and every country switching over to Fair
Trade, the prices will drop, like they have steadily for organic food. Don't
misunderstand me, I do not have much money, so I buy when I can. But for things
that are essential to me, such as shea butter, black soap, etc. there is no
excuse not to since I use those thing on a regular basis anyway. And I don't go
to Walmart. But everyone makes decisions based on their situation.
I think that as people of color, we need to be trying to support those companies
that use ethical practices. Those same companies that refuse to pay fair wages
to coffe, bananna and fruit workers also do the same thing to their employees in
the US, who happen to look like us or be us. And also, how can we demand respect
for equal rights and treatment when we support those who treat others like they
treat us? Just food for thought.
Tenise

Yep Cher -- that Suave Humectant Conditioner is awesome too, and it smells like heaven!!

HeyyyyYyyYY Everyone!!
I hope all had a good day!!
Well, my hair is usually always dry and soaks up any and all signs of moisture. Luckily I picked up a few tricks & products where it isn't 2 bad all the time. Well, I went to Krogers the other day and saw that they had some hair products on Clearance for a cheap price. And I saw one that was a Suave product (which is a line I LOVE) well it is called Suave 2 Minute Recovery Deep Conditioner. OH MY GOODNESS it left my hair soft to the touch, moisturized, and smooth. Plus it says you can use it every day, which I may have to try it out.
But for those with very dry I hair, I truely would reccomend it.
femaleuniqnes

Keke,
Questions about Fair Trade itself(why buy fair trade products?)
www.fairtraderesource.org/faqs.html
A list of fair trade companies
http://www.ifat.org/sourcing.html
http://www.fairtrade.org.uk/products.htm
Keep in mind that getting fair trade certification is expensive, so larger
companies with more revenue are more likely to have the certification. Also keep
in mind that companies that say they are fair trade but have no certification
might be in the middle of the process. Some companies choose not to have
certification because the cost (around $10,000 USD) is prohibitive for them, so
their longtime customers know that they are Fair Trade and buy from them
anyway.
There is no international Fair Trade group for things like shea butter right
now, it is in the process of being formed. You should only buy hair care items
from people who state that they are fair trade only after sending them an email
asking about their policies. The only two that I know of personally who are fair
trade buyers and who are both Black owned are:
http://www.afrikanrepublic.com/
http://www.nasabb.com/
Hope this helps,
Tenise

I'd like to think i am a fairly educated person, but I am also woman
enough to admit that I don't have a CLUE what yall are talking bout!
So enlighten a sistah please:)
B

I used the anti-breakage treatment when transitioning. It work ok
for that.

In a message dated 1/26/2005 12:16:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, ross2062@... writes:

For those of you that aren't on nappturality yet, we are having a gather this weekend in Atlanta. We will be going rollerskating at the rink on Martin Luther King Blvd and after that we will be going to eat at an applebees close to the rink. If interest please come out.This gathering should be really fun.

And to think that I could have possibly been in Atlanta this week =-(. It would have been nice to check out.Everyone that plans on attending I hope ya have fun & take plenty of pics to share with us!!
femaleuniqnes

I have a friend that loves it. Personally, I think ORS is better, but I think the doo gro is worth a try. Good luck!!

des
youareblessedforeal <youareblessedforeal@...

is doo gro ok for my hair. i want to see some results today
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

For those of you that aren't on nappturality yet, we are having a gather this weekend in Atlanta. We will be going rollerskating at the rink on Martin Luther King Blvd and after that we will be going to eat at an applebees close to the rink. If interest please come out.This gathering should be really fun.

Peace
You can chech with this website:
http://www.maketradefair.com/en/index.htm
to see if they answer your questions.
I make sure that the shea butter I purchase comes from a Ghanain,
supporting Ghanians.
Sauda

Finally, someone else in the Bay Area! Yes, I am very much intrested in getting together for a hair day and swapping ideas etc. How do you want to go about this?

--Anjanette
Bobbi <bdeaw@...

I'm hoping to get together with other napptural women in the San
Francisco Bay Area
for a hair day. If you're out there and interested let me know. I'm
hoping to get advice, swap products, maybe do/learn new styles and
make some new friends.
Bobbi
"Oppressed hair puts a ceiling on the brain." - Alice Walker

Hi Deniece welcome to the group, glad you could join us!!
I don't know any salons or stylists personally who are in California but here are a few sites with listings of salons...and maybe you could call or visit them to see if they may be able to provide a good service to you & your natural hair.
http://www.nappyhair.com/salon_locations/california_salons.htm http://www.bombhair.com/California.htm
And for sites on different styles:
http://motowngirl.com/how_to.htm
http://www.blackhairmedia.com/hairhowto.htm
http://public.fotki.com/Delushious/twist_extensions_101/
http://www.itsallgoodhair.com/cornrows.html
http://cornrows.co.uk/howto/index.html#handposition
http://www.naani.com/how_to_do_cornrows.htm
And when you said you wanted to learn how to do 2 strand twists did you mean on your own natural hair or with extensions?
femaleuniqnes
In a message dated 1/25/2005 12:24:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, cherettt@... writes:

In a message dated 1/24/2005 1:52:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, xango2001@... writes:

Hello Newbie Growing Healthy Napptural
Hair Head !!!
Please fill out the following profile
and send it to

Hello Ladies,
I'm very interested in supporting Fair Trade companies but would like to know if
there is
any way to verify some of the claims they have? Is there an indepedant company
(such as
the BBB) that can vouch for that claim? Is there a standard for companies
claiming to be
fair trade? If so, where can I find such information?
Thanks in advanced.
-keke

I'm hoping to get together with other napptural women in the San
Francisco Bay Area
for a hair day. If you're out there and interested let me know. I'm
hoping to get advice, swap products, maybe do/learn new styles and
make some new friends.
Bobbi

In a message dated 1/24/2005 1:52:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, xango2001@... writes:

Hello Newbie Growing Healthy Napptural
Hair Head !!!
Please fill out the following profile
and send it to

has anyone tried this product? it's shampoo and conditioner and anti-
breakage ends treatment. i heard about it from longhaircareforum.com
i just wanted to know has anyone tried it im thinking about buying
it just curious! thank you.

Im going nappy is it ok to briad hair with weave and leave in two
weeks

is doo gro ok for my hair. i want to see some results today

When I transitioned the hair did look shorter for a little while.
Natural hair usually has a lot of shrinkage. I have been natural for
a while and it looks as if my hair has not grown in the last couple
of years. My twists stay above my shoulders, but my hair is actually
a little longer than mid back. My hair will always look shorter than
it actually is.

Hello,
Keisha:
It looks to me in the picture that she used about 2 or three cups of water for
the rosemary spritz. That makes sense to me, since she used four rosemary
teabags and she said that she made her rosemary spritz stong in order to work
better. I hope this helps you.
Keke:
To Dry Herbs
If the herb grows on a stem (rosemary, marjoram, thyme etc)
Rinse them lightly first and gently pat dry. Do not bruise them. I take mine and
swish them gently by the stems in cold water.
The easiest way to dry them is to tie a small bunch together by the stem with a
piece of string and turn them upside down.
Rinse them lightly first and gently pat dry.
Take a small brown paper bag and punch holes in it for ventilation.
Put the bundle of herbs in it upside down and hang in an out of the way place
out of sunlight to dry.
I hang mine in the kitchen above a doorway. I tie the string holding the herbs
to a nail in the wall. You could use a thumbtack if you're renting, my landlord
is not picky (he just wants his rent and he leaves me alone), but yours might
be.
The bag will catch the herbs as they dry and fall off so you don't lose any and
it will keep them from getting dusty.
In the winter herb drying takes about a week or so due to indoor heating.
If the herb does not have a long stem (bay leaves, basil, ceremonial sage)
Take the herbs and put them on a mesh screen (or on cheesecloth)in a single
layer and put them somewhere to dry out of the sun, away from pets or children.
You can also spread them in a single layer on parchment paper (find it in the
baking isle) on a cookie sheet and bake them on the lowest setting of your oven
for 4-5 hours or until completely dry.
Do NOT leave them unattended, or you will come back to a stinky house and burnt
herbs. Tarragon smells awful drying in the oven but wonderful on food. Just a
warning.
Remove the sheet when they are BONE DRY (they will crumble in your fingers), let
them cool completely (at least 4-5 hours)and put in a container to store.
Make sure they are completely cool before you put them away, or the condensation
will make them mold in your jar.
I use canning jars that have the seperate lid and the metal ring that screws
down for mine. You can buy them at any superstore, Win Dixie, Kroger, Food Lion,
Giant, Bi Lo, Piggly Wiggly, etc in the baking isle. This is how I store all my
herbs and it keeps them very fresh by locking out the moisture. Always store
herbs in a cool dark place away from sunlight and they wil last for about a
year. I like the 4 oz and 6 oz canning jars.

Thanks for the tips.
-keke